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William III Talvas (1179October 4, 1221) was William II (or III), Count of Ponthieu and William IV Talvas (of the house of Belleme/Montgomery). He was Count of Ponthieu, ruler of a small province in northern France that fell under the suzerainty of the dukes of Normandy (later also kings of England) since at least the mid 11th century. He was son and heir of John I, Count of Ponthieu (d 1191) by his third wife Beatrice de St Pol. Events Third Council of the Lateran condemned Waldensians and Cathars as heretics, institutes a reformation of clerical life, and creates the first ghettos for Jews Afonso I is recognized as the true King of Portugal by Portugal the protection of the Catholic Church against the Castillian monarchy Philip II is... Jump to: navigation, search October 4 is the 277th day of the year (278th in Leap years). ... Centuries: 12th century - 13th century - 14th century Decades: 1170s 1180s 1190s 1200s 1210s - 1220s - 1230s 1240s 1250s 1260s 1270s Years: 1216 1217 1218 1219 1220 - 1221 - 1222 1223 1224 1225 1226 See also: 1221 state leaders Events May 13 - End of the reign of Emperor Juntoku of Japan Emperor Chukyo... Ponthieu is a former province of northern France. ... Ponthieu is a former province of northern France. ... Jump to: navigation, search // Events May 12 - Richard I of England marries Berengaria of Navarre. ...

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Family history and background

His father Jean I, Count of Ponthieu (d 1191 was the son and heir of Guy II, Count of Ponthieu (who died on the Second Crusade 1147), himself the son and heir of William I, Count of Ponthieu or William III Talvas, of the house of Belleme/Montgomery (d 1143 per some accounts, 30 June 1171 per most other accounts). The great-grandfather William I, Count of Ponthieu (or William III Talvas) had surrendered the county of Ponthieu to his son Guy I for his lifetime, and then reobtained it after Guy's early death, which might explain why his great-grandson is usually known as William III Talvas. Jump to: navigation, search // Events May 12 - Richard I of England marries Berengaria of Navarre. ... Events King Afonso I of Portugal and the Crusaders capture Lisbon from Muslims First written mention of Moscow. ... Jump to: navigation, search Events Celestine II is elected pope. ... // Events Saladin abolishes the Fatimid caliphate, restoring Sunni rule in Egypt. ...


William I Talvas, Count of Ponthieu was himself the son of Agnes, Countess of Ponthieu (d by 1105) by her husband, a notorious and powerful Norman baron Robert de Belleme, 3rd and last Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord of Montgomery; thus William III Talvas represented the senior line of the lords of Montgomery, once trusted vassals and allies of William the Conqueror. Ponthieu is a former province of northern France. ... Ponthieu is a former province of northern France. ... Events Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor deposed by his son, Henry V Tamna kingdom annexed by Korean Goryeo Dynasty. ... Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (1052- after 1130) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman, and one of the most promiment figures in the competition for the succession to England and Normandy between the sons of William the Conqueror. ... William I ( 1027 – September 9, 1087), was King of England from 1066 to 1087. ...


Marriage to Alys, Countess of the Vexin

Talvas was married on August 20, 1195 to Alys, Countess of the Vexin, the daughter of King Louis VII of France. She was some eighteen years older than he, and had previously been the mistress of King Henry II of England while betrothed to his son, King Richard the Lion-Hearted. Richard sent her back to her brother, King Philip II of France, refusing to marry his father's mistress. August 20 is the 232nd day of the year (233rd in leap years) in the Gregorian Calendar. ... Events Priory of St Marys, Bushmead, founded. ... Alys, Countess of the Vexin (October 4, 1160-c. ... Louis VII the Younger (French: Louis VII le Jeune) (1120 – September 18, 1180) was King of France from 1137 to 1180. ... Jump to: navigation, search Henry II (5 March 1133 – 6 July 1189) ruled as Count of Anjou, Duke of Normandy, and as King of England (1154–1189) and, at various times, controlled parts of Wales, Scotland, eastern Ireland, and western France. ... Richard I (September 8, 1157 – April 6, 1199) was King of England from 1189 to 1199. ... Philip II (French: Philippe II), called Philip Augustus (French: Philippe Auguste) (August 21, 1165 – July 14, 1223), was King of France from 1180 to 1223. ...


Philip then arranged for Alys to marry William Talvas, with the intent that the couple would be childless, and he would thus gain control of Ponthieu, a small but strategically important county. However, Alys then gave birth to a daughter and heiress, Marie, in 1197/1198. This daughter, the middle of three children, was the maternal grandmother of Eleanor of Castile, first wife of Edward I, King of England. Another genealogical table says that Alys and William III Talvas also had a son Jean (1199-1214 killed at Bouvines), while others attribute at least one more daughter to William and Alys. Jump to: navigation, search Events Amalric II succeeds Henry II of Champagne as king of Jerusalem. ... Events End of the reign of Emperor Go-Toba of Japan Emperor Tsuchimikado ascends to the throne of Japan January 8 - Pope Innocent III ascends Papal Throne Frederick II, infant son of German King Henry VI, crowned King of Sicily Births August 24 - Alexander II of Scotland (d. ... for others known sometimes by same name, see Leonora of Castile Eleanor of Castile (1241 – 28 November 1290) was the first Queen consort of Edward I of England. ... Edward I; illustration from Cassells History of England circa 1902. ... Events John Lackland, becomes King of England Births Isobel of Huntingdon (d. ... Jump to: navigation, search Events Simon Apulia becomes Bishop of Exeter. ... Bouvines is a commune of the Nord département, in northern France. ...


In either case, at the death (in 1221) of William III Talvas, his daughter Marie was his heiress until her own death in 1251. For his marriage with Simon de Dammartin, count of Aumale, she bore 4 daughters, and Ponthieu then passed to her eldest daughter, Jeanne, wife of St Ferdinand, King of Castile and Leon. Jeanne died 1279, and Ponthieu and the disputed Vexin inheritance apparently formed the dowry/inheritance of Eleanor of Castile, wife of Edward I Centuries: 12th century - 13th century - 14th century Decades: 1170s 1180s 1190s 1200s 1210s - 1220s - 1230s 1240s 1250s 1260s 1270s Years: 1216 1217 1218 1219 1220 - 1221 - 1222 1223 1224 1225 1226 See also: 1221 state leaders Events May 13 - End of the reign of Emperor Juntoku of Japan Emperor Chukyo... Jump to: navigation, search For broader historical context, see 1270s and 13th century. ... for others known sometimes by same name, see Leonora of Castile Eleanor of Castile (1241 – 28 November 1290) was the first Queen consort of Edward I of England. ... Edward I; illustration from Cassells History of England circa 1902. ...


For the history of Ponthieu, which was claimed by the English crown since 1279, see the relevant article. The important Battle of Crecy (1346) was fought in the province of Ponthieu. Ponthieu is a former province of northern France. ... Crécy is part of the name of several communes of France. ... // Events Serbian Empire was proclaimed in Skopje by Dusan Silni, occupying much of the South-Eastern Europe Foundation of the University of Valladolid Foundation of Pembroke College, University of Cambridge August 26 Battle of Crecy after which Edward the Black Prince honored the bravery of John I, Count of Luxemburg...


Notes

The first William to be Count of Ponthieu was undoubtedly Agnes's son. I have found no sources for this, but it appears that he may also be William II of Ponthieu, having taken back the government of Ponthieu after his son's death in 1147 and his grandson being a minor. It is not clear why William Talvas ever gave up Ponthieu to his son, except that this abdication might have been dictated by Guy's marriage to the mysterious Ida, whose family is not known. The page below on the Counts of Alencon claim that William Talvas died 1143, but most other sources say that he died 1171.


Sources

Monicat, M.J. Recueil des Actes de Philippe Auguste Roi de France, 1996.

  • The First Dynasty of Ponthieu - in French [1]
  • The Dynasty of Belleme/Montgomery - in French [2]
  • The Montgomery Family, Earls of Shrewsbury Montgomery family albeit with some mistakes, attributing Robert de Belleme's sister-in-law to his first wife.

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William IV of Ponthieu at AllExperts (672 words)
William III Talvas (1179 – October 4, 1221) was William II (or III), Count of Ponthieu and William IV Talvas (of the house of Belleme/Montgomery).
The great-grandfather William I, Count of Ponthieu (or William III Talvas) had surrendered the county of Ponthieu to his son Guy I for his lifetime, and then reobtained it after Guy's early death, which might explain why his great-grandson is usually known as William III Talvas.
Talvas was married on August 20, 1195 to Alys, Countess of the Vexin, the daughter of King Louis VII of France.
William III - Columbia Encyclopedia article about William III (1608 words)
William III, 1650–1702, king of England, Scotland, and Ireland (1689–1702); son of William II, prince of Orange, stadtholder of the United Provinces of the Netherlands, and of Mary, oldest daughter of King Charles I of England.
William, however, took an English army to the Spanish Netherlands in 1691 and was constantly involved in campaigning until the conclusion of peace by the Treaty of Ryswick (1697).
William III ruled as a constitutional monarch, and his long reign was unmarred by friction with the States-General.
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