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talk.origins (often capitalised to Talk.Origins or abbreviated as t.o.) is a moderated Usenet discussion forum concerning the origins of life, and evolution. It remains a major venue for debate in the so-called creation-evolution controversy, and its official purpose is to draw such debates out of the science newsgroups, such as sci.bio.evolution. Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, distributed bulletin board system (BBS). ... Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, distributed bulletin board system (BBS). ... In biology, evolution is the process in which some inherited traits in a population become more common relative to others through successive generations. ... The creation-evolution controversy (also termed the creation vs. ...

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History

The first post to talk.origins was a starter post by Mark Horton, dated 5th September 1986 [1] In the early 1990s, a number of FAQs on various topics were being periodically posted to the newsgroup. In 1994, Brett J. Vickers established an anonymous FTP site to host the collected FAQs of the newsgroup. In 1995, Vickers started the TalkOrigins Archive web site as another means of hosting the talk.origins FAQs. It maintains an extensive FAQ on topics in evolutionary biology, geology and astronomy, with the aim of representing the views of mainstream science. It has spawned other websites, notably TalkDesign "a response to the intelligent design movement", Evowiki, and the Panda's Thumb weblog. September 5 is the 248th day of the year (249th in leap years). ... 1986 (MCMLXXXVI) was a common year starting on Wednesday of the Gregorian calendar. ... FAQ is an abbreviation for Frequently Asked Question(s). The term refers to listed questions and answers, all supposed to be frequently asked in some context, and pertaining to a particular topic. ... A newsgroup is a repository usually within the Usenet system, for messages posted from many users at different locations. ... FTP or file transfer protocol is used to connect two computers over the Internet so that the user of one computer can transfer files and perform file commands on the other computer. ... FAQ is an abbreviation for Frequently Asked Question(s). The term refers to listed questions and answers, all supposed to be frequently asked in some context, and pertaining to a particular topic. ... Talk. ... FAQ is an abbreviation for Frequently Asked Question(s). The term refers to listed questions and answers, all supposed to be frequently asked in some context, and pertaining to a particular topic. ... Evolutionary biology is a subfield of biology concerned with the origin and descent of species, as well as their change, multiplication, and diversity over time. ... World geologic provinces Oceanic crust  0-20 Ma  20-65 Ma  >65 Ma Geologic provinces  Shield  Platform  Orogen  Basin  Large igneous province  Extended crust Geology (from Greek γη- (ge-, the earth) and λογος (logos, word, reason))[1] is the science and study of the solid matter of a celestial body, its composition... A giant Hubble mosaic of the Crab Nebula, a supernova remnant. ... Intelligent design (ID) is the concept that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. ... EvoWiki, short for Evolution Education Wiki, is a wiki website dedicated to building a textbook and encyclopedia of Evolution and related sciences, to providing responses to claims by creationist and intelligent design followers, and to hosting general essays and comment about these subjects. ... The Pandas Thumb is a weblog on the creation-evolution controversy from a mainstream perspective. ...


The group was originally created as the unmoderated newsgroup net.origins as a 'dumping ground' for all the various flame threads 'polluting' other newsgroups, then renamed to talk.origins as part of the Great Renaming. Subsequently, after discussion on the newsgroup, the group was voted to be moderated in 1997 by the normal USENET RFD/CFV process and only spam is censored. The moderator for the newsgroup is David Iain Greig (and technically Jim Lippard as alternate/backup). The Great Renaming was a restructuring of Usenet newsgroups that took place in 1987. ... Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, distributed bulletin board system (BBS). ... This article or section does not cite its references or sources. ...


Culture

The group is characterized by a long list of in-crowd jokes like the fictitious University of Ediacara, the equally fictitious Evil Atheist Conspiracy which allegedly hides all the evidence supporting Creationism, a monthly election of the Chez Watt-award for "statements that make you go 'say what', or some such."[2], pun cascades and a strong predisposition to quoting Monty Python. The Creation of Light by Gustave Doré. Creationism can either refer to: the belief that humanity, life, the Earth, or the universe as a whole was specially created by a supreme being (often referred to specifically as God[1]) or by other forms of supernatural intervention. ... Monty Python, or The Pythons, is the collective name of the creators of Monty Pythons Flying Circus, a British television comedy sketch show that first aired on the BBC on 5 October 1969. ...


Apart from the fun, however, the group is noted for its detailed and reasoned rebuttals to even the most insane claims. This is a result of the one rule the group does seem to have, that any claim is to be backed up by actual evidence, preferably in the form of a peer-reviewed publication in a reputable journal. The truly great posts are nominated for a PoTM-award, which makes it into the annals of talkorigins.org. Screenshot of the TalkOrigins Archive front page The TalkOrigins Archive is a popular website that presents mainstream science perspectives on the antievolution claims of young-earth, old-earth, and intelligent design creationists. ...


Or, as the regulars say themselves[3]:

 > I don't think creationism can be compared with the human sex drive for > mesmerizability. One might agree with you, if one did not spend so much time in this newsgroup. 

See also

In biology, evolution is the process in which some inherited traits in a population become more common relative to others through successive generations. ... Talk. ... The NCSEs logo The National Center for Science Education (NCSE) is a non-profit organization affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science. ...

Sources

  1. First post in (then) net.origins.
  2. Robert Grumbine explaining the concept of Chez Watt
  3. Two regulars discussing their fascination

External links

Some important posts

  • Starter message for talk.origins by Mark Horton, dated 5th September 1986
  • First cross-post of discussion to talk.origins, by Karl Kluge dated 8th September 1986
  • First replied-to post to talk.origins by Wayne Throop, dated 10th Sepember 1986
  • The post by David Bostwick announcing the passing of the moderation vote dated May 5th 1997

 
 

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