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Encyclopedia > Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc
Archbishop Peter Martin Ngô Đình Thuc
Archbishop Peter Martin Ngô Đình Thuc

Archbishop Pierre Martin Ngô Đình Thuc (Chu Nom: 吴廷俶October 6, 1897December 13, 1984), Roman Catholic Archbishop of Hué, Vietnam, was born in Hué, on October 6, 1897, of Catholic parents. His younger brother Ngô Đình Diệm was president of South Vietnam. Photo of Archbiship Ngo Dinh Thuc File history Legend: (cur) = this is the current file, (del) = delete this old version, (rev) = revert to this old version. ... Photo of Archbiship Ngo Dinh Thuc File history Legend: (cur) = this is the current file, (del) = delete this old version, (rev) = revert to this old version. ... October 6 is the 279th day of the year (280th in Leap years). ... 1897 was a common year starting on Friday (see link for calendar). ... December 13 is the 347th day of the year (348th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... 1984 is a leap year starting on Sunday of the Gregorian calendar. ... The Roman Catholic Church, most often spoken of simply as the Catholic Church, is the largest Christian church, with over one billion members. ... Huế (順化 in Chinese characters) is a city in Vietnam. ... Huế (順化 in Chinese characters) is a city in Vietnam. ... October 6 is the 279th day of the year (280th in Leap years). ... 1897 was a common year starting on Friday (see link for calendar). ... Ngô Đình Diệm Ngô Đình Diệm (吳廷琰, approximately pronounced Ngoh Din Yim   listen?) (January 3, 1901 – November 2, 1963) was the first President of the Republic of Vietnam (1955–63). ... Official language Vietnamese Capital Saigon Last President Duong Van Minh Last Prime Minister Vu Van Mau Area  - Total  - % water 173,809km² N/A Population  - Total  - Density 19,370,000 (1973 est. ...

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Early Ecclesiastical Career

Thuc had entered the junior seminary in Anninh at the age of 12. He spent eight years there before going on to study philosophy at the major seminary in Hué. After his ordination to the priesthood on December 20, 1925, he taught at the Sorbonne in Paris. He was then selected to study theology in Rome and returned to Vietnam in 1927 after being awarded three doctorates from the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome in philosophy, theology, and canon law. A seminary is a specialized university-like institution for the purpose of instructing students in religion, often in order to prepare them to become members of the clergy. ... Philosophy is a discipline or field of study involving the investigation, analysis, and development of ideas at a general, abstract, or fundamental level. ... Huế (順化 in Chinese characters) is a city in Vietnam. ... This article is about the sacrament. ... A priesthood is a body of priests, shamans, or oracles who are thought to have special religious authority or function. ... December 20 is the 354th day of the year (355th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... 1925 was a common year starting on Thursday (link will take you to calendar). ... The Sorbonne, Paris, in a 17th century engraving The Sorbonne today, from the same point of view The Sorbonne is frequently used in ordinary parlance as synonymous with the faculty of theology of Paris or the University of Paris in its entirety. ... The Eiffel Tower has become a symbol of Paris throughout the world. ... Theology is reasoned discourse concerning God (Greek θεος, theos, God, + λογος, logos, word or reason). It also refers to the study of other religious topics. ... City motto: Senatus Populusque Romanus – SPQR (The Senate and the People of Rome) Founded 21 April 753 BC mythical, 1st millennium BC Region Latium Mayor Walter Veltroni (Democratici di Sinistra) Area  - City Proper  1290 km² Population  - City (2004)  - Metropolitan  - Density (city proper) 2,546,807 almost 4,000,000 1... 1927 was a common year starting on Saturday (link will take you to calendar). ... The Pontifical Gregorian University The Pontifical Gregorian University is a Roman Catholic university in Rome. ... Philosophy is a discipline or field of study involving the investigation, analysis, and development of ideas at a general, abstract, or fundamental level. ... Theology is reasoned discourse concerning God (Greek θεος, theos, God, + λογος, logos, word or reason). It also refers to the study of other religious topics. ... In Western culture, canon law is the law of the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches. ...


He then became a professor at the College of Vietnamese Brothers in Hué, a professor at the major seminary in Hué, and Dean of the College of Providence. Huế (順化 in Chinese characters) is a city in Vietnam. ... Huế (順化 in Chinese characters) is a city in Vietnam. ...


In 1938, at the age of 41, Father Thuc was chosen by Rome to direct the Apostolic Vicariate at Vinhlong. He was consecrated bishop on May 4, 1938, being the third Vietnamese priest raised to the rank of bishop. On November 24, 1960, Pope John XXIII named Bishop Thuc Archbishop of Hué. 1938 was a common year starting on Saturday (link will take you to calendar). ... City motto: Senatus Populusque Romanus – SPQR (The Senate and the People of Rome) Founded 21 April 753 BC mythical, 1st millennium BC Region Latium Mayor Walter Veltroni (Democratici di Sinistra) Area  - City Proper  1290 km² Population  - City (2004)  - Metropolitan  - Density (city proper) 2,546,807 almost 4,000,000 1... Apostolic vicariate is a type of Roman Catholic diocese for non-Catholic or missionary regions and countries. ... A bishop is an ordained member of the Christian clergy who, in certain Christian churches, holds a position of authority. ... May 4 is the 124th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar (125th in leap years). ... 1938 was a common year starting on Saturday (link will take you to calendar). ... November 24 is the 328th day (329th on leap years) of the year in the Gregorian Calendar. ... 1960 was a leap year starting on Friday (link will take you to calendar). ... Pope John XXIII (Latin: ), born Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli (November 25, 1881 – June 3, 1963), reigned as the 261st Pope of the Roman Catholic Church and sovereign of Vatican City from October 28, 1958 until his death in 1963. ...


Thuc's brother, Ngo Dinh Khoi, was buried alive because of his refusal to become a minister in the first communist government. Thuc's three other brothers, Ngô Đình Diệm, president of South Vietnam, Ngô Đình Nhu and Ngô Đình Can|, his close collaborators, were all assassinated. President Diệm was assassinated on November 1, 1963. Of all his siblings, only Thuc and Luyen escaped assassination. Luyen was serving as ambassador in London and Thuc had been summoned to Rome for the Second Vatican Council. After the Council (1962-1965), for political reasons, Archbishop Thuc was not allowed to return to his duties at home thus beginning his life in exile. Communism refers to a system of social organization and a political movement based on common ownership of the means of production. ... Ngô Đình Diệm Ngô Đình Diệm (吳廷琰, approximately pronounced Ngoh Din Yim   listen?) (January 3, 1901 – November 2, 1963) was the first President of the Republic of Vietnam (1955–63). ... Official language Vietnamese Capital Saigon Last President Duong Van Minh Last Prime Minister Vu Van Mau Area  - Total  - % water 173,809km² N/A Population  - Total  - Density 19,370,000 (1973 est. ... Ngo Dinh Nhu Ngo Dinh Nhu was born in Vietnam, he was the younger brother and chief political advisor of South Vietnams first President Ngo Dinh Diem and their brother Bishop Thuc of Hue. ... Jack Ruby murdered Lee Harvey Oswald, the alleged assassin of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, in a very public manner In its most common use, assassination has come to mean the killing of an important person. ... Ngô Đình Diệm Ngô Đình Diệm (吳廷琰, approximately pronounced Ngoh Din Yim   listen?) (January 3, 1901 – November 2, 1963) was the first President of the Republic of Vietnam (1955–63). ... November 1 is the 305th day of the year (306th in leap years) in the Gregorian Calendar, with 60 days remaining. ... 1963 was a common year starting on Tuesday (link will take you to calendar). ... An ambassador, rarely embassador, is a diplomatic official accredited to a foreign sovereign or government, or to an international organization, to serve as the official representative of his or her own. ... The clock tower of the Palace of Westminster, which contains Big Ben London is the capital city of the United Kingdom and of England. ... City motto: Senatus Populusque Romanus – SPQR (The Senate and the People of Rome) Founded 21 April 753 BC mythical, 1st millennium BC Region Latium Mayor Walter Veltroni (Democratici di Sinistra) Area  - City Proper  1290 km² Population  - City (2004)  - Metropolitan  - Density (city proper) 2,546,807 almost 4,000,000 1... The Second Vatican Council, or Vatican II, was an Ecumenical Council of the Roman Catholic Church opened under Pope John XXIII in 1962 and closed under Pope Paul VI in 1965. ... The Second Vatican Council, or Vatican II, was an Ecumenical Council of the Roman Catholic Church opened under Pope John XXIII in 1962 and closed under Pope Paul VI in 1965. ...


Palmar de Troya

Archbishop Thuc at the episcopal consecrations at Palmar de Troya
Archbishop Thuc at the episcopal consecrations at Palmar de Troya

Palmar de Troya, Spain, a town just outside of Seville, was the site of supposed apparitions of the Virgin Mary in the late 1960s and the 1970s. The visionary and founder of the Palmarian sect, Clemente Domínguez y Gómez staged ecstasies and received the stigmata. Archbishop Thuc traveled to Spain due to the intervention of Rev. Maurice Revaz, who until he became convinced of the Palmar de Troya apparitions, had taught Canon Law at the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) seminary of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in Ecône, Switzerland. Revaz left the SSPX for the Palmar de Troya group. Archbishop Lefebvre himself did not believe in the apparitions of Palmar de Troya and often warned his faithful of the many recent apparitions being reported; even more after Rev. Revaz had left his own traditionalist Catholic seminary. Archbishop Thuc however did believe the apparitions initially. On January 11, 1976 Archbishop Thuc consecrated Dominguez Gomez and four others bishop after having earlier ordained them priest. These consecrated men had not received seminary training required by canon law for the priesthood. Since the consecrations were not done with the Pope's approval, Pope Paul VI excommunicated Archbishop Thuc. Archbiship Thuc at Palmar consecrations File history Legend: (cur) = this is the current file, (del) = delete this old version, (rev) = revert to this old version. ... Archbiship Thuc at Palmar consecrations File history Legend: (cur) = this is the current file, (del) = delete this old version, (rev) = revert to this old version. ... Seville (Spanish: Sevilla, see also different names) is the artistic, cultural, and financial capital of southern Spain, crossed by the river Guadalquivir (37°22′38″ N 5°59′13″ W). ... Blessed Virgin Mary A traditional Catholic picture sometimes displayed in homes. ... The 1960s, or The Sixties, in its most obvious sense refers to the decade between 1960 and 1969, but the expression has taken on a wider meaning over the past twenty years. ... This article provides extensive lists of events and significant personalities of the 1970s. ... Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (May 23, 1946–March 22, 2005) was proclaimed Pope Gregory XVII by supporters of the Palmarian Catholic Church Catholic breakway movement in 1978. ... Stigmata (plural of stigma) are wounds that were, according to the Bible, inflicted on Jesus during his crucifixion. ... Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, founder of the Society of Saint Pius X. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (November 29, 1905–March 25, 1991) was a leader of Catholics who oppose the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, especially in matters of ecumenism, collegiality, and the revision of the then existing Roman Missal, with... January 11 is the 11th day of the year in the Gregorian Calendar. ... 1976 is a leap year starting on Thursday (link will take you to calendar). ... Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (May 23, 1946–March 22, 2005) was proclaimed Pope Gregory XVII by supporters of the Palmarian Catholic Church Catholic breakway movement in 1978. ... In Western culture, canon law is the law of the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches. ... Pope Paul VI (Latin: ), born Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini (September 26, 1897 – August 6, 1978), reigned as Pope and as sovereign of Vatican City from 1963 to 1978. ... Excommunication is a religious censure which is used to deprive or suspend membership in a religious community. ...


Archbishop Thuc promptly broke with Palmar de Troya - not however because of Paul VI's objections, but because he came to conclude that the Palmarian movement was deviant and not legitimate, and that the group's apparitions were fraudulant. Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (May 23, 1946–March 22, 2005) was proclaimed Pope Gregory XVII by supporters of the Palmarian Catholic Church Catholic breakway movement in 1978. ...


Sedevacantism

Dominguez Gomez and his followers proceeded to say mass, ordain priests and consecrate bishops, effectively setting up a parallel church in opposition to Rome. Upon the death of Pope Paul VI, Dominguez Gomez claimed to have been mystically crowned pope in a jail, only hours after the death news reached him, founding the Palmarian Catholic Church. The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest Christian body, with over 1. ... Pope Paul VI (Latin: ), born Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini (September 26, 1897 – August 6, 1978), reigned as Pope and as sovereign of Vatican City from 1963 to 1978. ... Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (May 23, 1946–March 22, 2005) was proclaimed Pope Gregory XVII by supporters of the Palmarian Catholic Church Catholic breakway movement in 1978. ... Mysticism, from the Greek (mueo, to conceal), is the pursuit of achieving communion with, or conscious awareness of ultimate reality, the divine, spiritual truth, or God through direct, personal experience (intuition or insight) rather than rational thought; the belief in the existence of realities beyond perceptual or intellectual apprehension that...

The coat of arms of Archbishop Thuc
The coat of arms of Archbishop Thuc

Archbishop Thuc then moved to Toulon in southern France, where he had a confessional in the cathedral and regularly celebrated the Novus Ordo Missae (the New Mass promulgated by Pope Paul VI in 1969), until 1982. Archbishop Thuc proceeded to consecrate several bishops without papal mandate. On May 7, 1981 he consecrated a Dominican priest, theologian and former professor at the Roman Latern University, Guérard des Lauriers. On October 17, 1981, he consecrated two Mexican priests, Moises Carmona of Acapulco and Adolfo Zamora. Both of these priests were by then convinced, that the Papal See of Rome was vacant and the successors of Pope Pius XII were all heretical usurpators of Papal power. In February 1982, Archbishop Thuc issued his declaration declaring the See of Peter vacant. In his declaration he intimated he desired a Papal Election to end the vacancy, but his newly consecrated bishops instead became a fragmented group. On September 25, 1982 he consecrated Christian-Marie Datessen. It is also alleged that during this period, Archbishop Thuc consecrated various individuals of dubious character. The bishops consecrated by him rapidly proceeded to consecrate other bishops for all kind of Catholic splinter groups, most of them Sedevacantists. Coat of Arms of Archbiship Ngo Dinh Thuc This image depicts a seal, an emblem, a coat of arms or a crest. ... Coat of Arms of Archbiship Ngo Dinh Thuc This image depicts a seal, an emblem, a coat of arms or a crest. ... Location within France Coat of Arms of Toulon Toulon (Tolon in Provençal) is a city in southern France and a large military harbor on the Mediterranean coast, with a major French naval base. ... May 7 is the 127th day of the year in the Gregorian Calendar (128th in leap years). ... 1981 is a common year starting on Thursday of the Gregorian calendar. ... October 17 is the 290th (in leap years the 291st) day of the year according to the Gregorian calendar. ... 1981 is a common year starting on Thursday of the Gregorian calendar. ... Moises Carmona Rivera (October 31, 1912 - November 1, 1991) was born in Quechultenango, Guerrero, Mexico and was a Roman Catholic parish priest in Acapulco notable for his refusal to accept the reforms of the Second Vatican Council. ... Acapulco Bay Acapulco (formally: Acapulco de Juárez) is a city and major sea port in the state of Guerrero on the Pacific coast of Mexico, 300 km (190 miles) SSW of Mexico City, at 16°85′ N 99°92′ W. Acapulco is located on a deep, semicircular bay, almost... September 25 is the 268th day of the year (269th in leap years). ... 1982 is a common year starting on Friday of the Gregorian calendar. ... Sedevacantism is the term commonly used to denote the belief, held by a minority of Traditionalist Catholics, that some or all of the men generally recognized as Popes since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958 (Pope John XXIII, Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul I, Pope John Paul...


Shortly after the Datessen consecration, Archbishop Thuc departed for the United States at the invitation of Bishop Louis Vezelis, a Franciscan, in whose New York friary he took up residence. The Order of Friars Minor and other Franciscan movements are disciples of Saint Francis of Assisi. ... State nickname: Empire State Other U.S. States Capital Albany Largest city New York City Governor George Pataki (R) Senators Charles Schumer (D) Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) Official languages None (English is de facto) Area 141,205 km² (27th)  - Land 122,409 km²  - Water 18,795 km² (13. ... A friar is a member of a religious order of men. ...


It is alleged (by the Vezelis group in particular) that Archbishop Thuc was abducted by a group of Vietnamese priests while in New York and was taken to Missouri and hidden away from the contact of his friends. There he was subsequently held incommunicado. It is possible he returned to union with Rome and abjured his former position of Sedevacantism although there is no confirmation one way or the other. Under these uncertain circumstances in the United States, Archbishop Thuc died on December 13, 1984. State nickname: Empire State Other U.S. States Capital Albany Largest city New York City Governor George Pataki (R) Senators Charles Schumer (D) Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) Official languages None (English is de facto) Area 141,205 km² (27th)  - Land 122,409 km²  - Water 18,795 km² (13. ... State nickname: The Show Me State Other U.S. States Capital Jefferson City Largest city Kansas City (largest metropolitan area is Saint Louis) Governor Matt Blunt (R) Senators Kit Bond (R) Jim Talent (R) Official languages English Area 69,709 mi²; 180,693 km² (21st)  - Land 68,898 mi²; 178... December 13 is the 347th day of the year (348th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... 1984 is a leap year starting on Sunday of the Gregorian calendar. ...


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Episcopal Lineage
Consecrated by: Antonin Drapier
Date of consecration: May 4, 1938
Consecrator of
Bishop Date of consecration
Philippe Nguyen-Kim-Dien January 22, 1961
Michel Nguyen Khac Ngu January 22, 1961
Clemente Domínguez y Gómez January 11, 1976
Manuel Alonso Corral January 11, 1976
Camilo Estevez January 11, 1976
Michael Donnelly January 11, 1976
Francis Sandler January 11, 1976
Michel Louis Guerard des Lauriers May 7. 1981
Moises Carmona October 17, 1981
Adolfo Zamora October 17, 1981
Christian-Marie Datessen September 25, 1982

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