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Encyclopedia > Jim Shooter
Jim Shooter
Born September 27, 1951 (1951-09-27) (age 55)
Pittsburgh
Nationality American
Area(s) Writer, Penciller, Editor, Publisher
Notable works Legion of Super-Heroes
Valiant Comics

Jim Shooter (born September 27, 1951 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) is an American writer, occasional fill-in artist, editor, and publisher for various comic books. is the 270th day of the year (271st in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... Year 1951 (MCMLI) was a common year starting on Monday (link will display the full calendar) of the Gregorian calendar. ... Nickname: Motto: Benigno Numine (With the Benevolent Deity) Location in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania Coordinates: , Country United States Commonwealth Pennsylvania County Allegheny Founded November 25, 1758 Incorporated April 22, 1794 (borough)   March 18, 1816 (city) Government  - Mayor Luke Ravenstahl (D) Area  - City 151. ... Image File history File links This is a lossless scalable vector image. ... is the 270th day of the year (271st in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... Year 1951 (MCMLI) was a common year starting on Monday (link will display the full calendar) of the Gregorian calendar. ... Nickname: Motto: Benigno Numine (With the Benevolent Deity) Location in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania Coordinates: , Country United States Commonwealth Pennsylvania County Allegheny Founded November 25, 1758 Incorporated April 22, 1794 (borough)   March 18, 1816 (city) Government  - Mayor Luke Ravenstahl (D) Area  - City 151. ... Capital Harrisburg Largest city Philadelphia Area  Ranked 33rd  - Total 46,055 sq mi (119,283 km²)  - Width 280 miles (455 km)  - Length 160 miles (255 km)  - % water 2. ... A writer is anyone who creates a written work, although the word more usually designates those who write creatively or professionally, or those who have written in many different forms. ... Editing may also refer to audio editing or film editing. ... A publisher is a person or entity which engages in the act of publishing. ... A comic book is a magazine or book containing the art form of comics. ...

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DC Comics

When he was 13 years old, Shooter began selling stories to DC Comics for Adventure Comics, starting with Adventure Comics #346 (July 1966), for which he provided not only writing but pencil breakdowns as well. Shooter created characters for the Legion of Super-Heroes including Karate Kid, a teenage superhero who predated the martial arts fad of the 1970s, and Ferro Lad, a teenage superhero who can transform to living iron, and Princess Projectra, who could cast realistic illusions. Karate Kid is a noted example of Shooter's ability to analyze a comic-book feature and address its weaknesses. Shooter noticed that most of the Legionnaires in the Legion of Super-Heroes had super-powers which could be described as "strike a pose and point". As a contrast to such characters, Shooter created Karate Kid as a character who used his entire body in martial-arts combat, usually in direct physical contact with a foe. DC Comics is an American comic book and related media company. ... Adventure Comics #296 Adventure Comics is a comic book series published by DC Comics from 1935 to 1983. ... The Legion of Super-Heroes is a DC Comics superhero team created by writer Otto Binder and artist Al Plastino. ... This article does not cite its references or sources. ... ... Princess Projectra is a comic book superhero in the DC Comics universe. ...


Rather than submitting a standard script, Shooter's early method was to actually draw out entire stories in art breakdowns, and then add the dialog. LSH artist Curt Swan was so impressed with Shooter's sense of artistic layout and design, he would often copy from the youngster's sketches. Many artists have since followed his lead. As Shooter began to take on additional writing assignments for Captain Action and other DC books, he began writing his stories as scripts, which was the preferred style at the company. Curt Swan (born February 17, 1920 in Minneapolis, Minnesota; died June 16, 1996) was an American comic book artist, most known for his work on the Superman comics. ... Captain Action was an early action figure from 1966, a figure who came with seperate costumes to change into Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Captain America, Aquaman, the Phantom, The Lone Ranger (and Tonto, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, Sgt Fury, Steve Canyon and the Green Hornet. ...


Shooter revealed in later interviews that his family suffered from severe financial hardship when he was young, and in order to help contribute to the finances he hit upon the idea of writing comic books. It never occurred to him at the time that it was virtually inconceivable that a 13 year old could break into the business...he simply did it. Luckily, his work was so good he was hired by Superman editor Mort Weisinger. But he had never considered being a comic book writer forever, and after graduating from high school, he began looking for another line of work. Superman is a fictional character and comic book superhero , originally created by American writer Jerry Siegel and Canadian artist Joe Shuster and published by DC Comics. ... Mortimer Weisinger (1915-1978) was an American magazine and comic book editor. ...


Shooter retired from the comics industry after his Legion series ended its run in Adventure Comics and moved to the pages of Action Comics as a smaller back-up series in the late 1960s, but was coaxed out of retirement by members of Legion fandom several years later. He undertook a second run writing the Legion in the mid-1970s (now in their own book, Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes), but frequent creative conflicts with editor Murray Boltinoff eventually led Shooter to look elsewhere within the business. Cover of Action Comics #1, which featured the debut of Superman. ...


Marvel Comics

In the mid-70s, Marvel was undergoing a series of changes in the position of Editor-in-Chief. After Roy Thomas retired from the post in order to focus on writing, a succession of other editors, including Gerry Conway, Len Wein, Marv Wolfman and Archie Goodwin, took the job during a relatively short span of time, only to find the task too daunting as Marvel continued to grow and add new titles and a larger staff to turn material out. Shooter joined the Marvel staff as an assistant editor and writer, being most remembered for the Korvac Saga in Avengers, a demonstration of the cosmic style found frequently in his writing. With the quick turnover at the top, he rapidly found himself rising in the ranks. Roy Thomas (born November 22, 1940, Missouri, United States) is a comic book writer and editor, and Stan Lees first successor as editor-in-chief of Marvel Comics. ... Gerard F. Gerry Conway (September 10, 1952 - ) is an American writer of comic books and television shows. ... Len Wein (born June 12, 1948, New York City, New York) is an American comic book writer and editor best known for co-creating DC Comics Swamp Thing and for reviving Marvel Comics X-Men. ... Cover to Crisis on Infinite Earths #1, which was written by Wolfman. ... The name Archie Goodwin can refer to: Archie Goodwin, the fictional detective character created by Rex Stout. ... This is a disambiguation page — a navigational aid which lists other pages that might otherwise share the same title. ...


Shooter succeeded Archie Goodwin to become the ninth editor-in-chief of Marvel Comics from 1978 to 1987. Shooter was made editor-in-chief over more established personnel at Marvel, and, during his tenure, certain long-time key staff defected to DC. Although there were complaints among some that he imposed a dictatorial style on the "Bullpen," he successfully managed to keep the line of books on schedule, add new titles, and develop new talent. During this period, publisher Stan Lee relocated to Los Angeles to better oversee Marvel's animation, television and film projects, leaving Shooter largely in charge of the creative decision making at Marvel's New York City headquarters. Archie Goodwin (September 8, 1937 – March 1, 1998) was an American comic book writer, editor, and artist. ... The Editor in chief is a publications primary editor. ... Marvel Comics is an American comic book line published by Marvel Publishing, Inc. ... Stan Lee (born Stanley Martin Lieber on December 28, 1921[1]) is an American writer, editor, was the Chairman Emeritus of Marvel Comics, and memoirist. ...


Marvel enjoyed some of its best successes during Shooter's tenure as editor-in-chief, most notably Chris Claremont and John Byrne's X-Men. Although Claremont had begun writing the series long before Shooter became editor, it reached the heights of popularity during his tenure. Shooter believed that every title, no matter how unpopular, deserved a chance to succeed. Some have maintained that he abandoned a long-time Marvel Comics policy allocating the best writers to the best-selling titles; however, the notion of best is subjective, and his introduction of royalties had the opposite effect, encouraging star writers to stick with the better-selling titles. Although some of the second-string titles, such as The Uncanny X-Men and Daredevil, reached then-unprecedented heights of popularity, this was done under the aegis of writers and artists who, at the time they were assigned to the titles, had been unknowns. During the peak years under Shooter's editorial leadership, Marvel routinely captured nearly three-quarters of sales in the marketplace. This does not adequately cite its references or sources. ... John Lindley Byrne (born July 6, 1950) is a British-born naturalised American author and artist of comic books. ... The X-Men are a group of comic book superheroes featured in Marvel Comics. ... Daredevil (Matt Murdock) is a superhero in the Marvel Comics Universe. ...


Shooter also helped revitalize Marvel's two flagship titles when John Byrne took over The Fantastic Four as writer/artist, and Roger Stern and John Romita, Jr. became the most prominent creative team on The Amazing Spider-Man. He pioneered a series of innovations in the American comics industry with toy tie-ins such as Shogun Warriors, Rom the Spaceknight, GI Joe, Transformers, and the mini-series and graphic novel formats. The Fantastic Four is Marvel Comics flagship superhero team, created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby and debuting in The Fantastic Four #1 (Nov. ... The Hobgoblin character co-created by Stern. ... John Romita Jr. ... The Amazing Spider-Man is the title of a comic book published by Marvel Comics, a television program and a daily newspaper comic strip. ... Shogun Warriors were a line of toys, licensed by Mattel during the late 1970s that consisted of a series of imported Japanese robots all based on then-popular giant robot anime shows. ... Rom the Spaceknight is a fictional cyborg outer space hero created in co-operation between Parker Brothers and Marvel Comics. ... G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero is a military-themed action figure (3 3/4 inches tall) that was supported by a Marvel Comic and a popular cartoon television show that ran in the 1980s. ... The Transformers was an 80 issue comic book by Marvel Comics telling the story of the Transformers. ... Trade paperback of Will Eisners A Contract with God (1978), often mistakenly cited as the first graphic novel. ...


In 1981, Shooter brought Marvel into the lucrative comic book specialty shop market with Dazzler #1, featuring a disco-themed heroine with ties to the X-Men (based upon an unproduced motion picture set to star Bo Derek), and shortly thereafter launched the first direct sales only ongoing series from a major publisher, with such titles as Marvel Fanfare and Ka-Zar. Also under Shooter's editorial reign, Walt Simonson revamped The Mighty Thor and made it again a bestseller. Dazzler (Alison Blaire) is a Marvel Comics superheroine, associated with the X-Men. ... Bo Derek (born Mary Cathleen Collins on November 20, 1956, Long Beach, California, USA) is a Golden Globe-nominated American film actress and model. ... Marvel Fanfare are two comic books published by Marvel Comics. ... Ka-Zar (pronounced KAY-sar) is the name of three jungle-dwelling fictional characters. ... Star Slammers graphic novel (1983) Walter or, usually, Walt Simonson (born September 2, 1946) is a comic book writer and artist. ... Thor battles his evil step-brother, Loki. ...


Criticism

Shooter was criticized for radical reworkings of several iconic Marvel heroes, including (temporarily) replacing Captain America, Iron Man and Thor with new men behind the masks and changing Spider-Man's familiar red and blue costume to a black and white suit; done solely, critics charged, to sell new Spider-Man toys. Captain America is a fictional comic book superhero published by Marvel Comics. ... Iron Man (Anthony Edward Tony Stark) is a fictional comic-book superhero in the Marvel Comics universe. ... Thors battle against the giants, by Mårten Eskil Winge, 1872 Thor (Old Norse: Þórr) is the red-haired and bearded god of thunder and war in Norse Mythology and more generally Germanic mythology (Old English: Þunor, Old Dutch and Old High German: Donar, from Proto-Germanic *Þunraz). ...


Shooter angered and alienated a number of creators by insisting on strong editorial control and strict adherence to deadlines. Despite his success in revitalizing Marvel, instituting an art return program, and his implementation of a policy which gave creators royalties when their books passed certain sales benchmarks, and when characters they worked on were licensed as toys, Shooter still found himself in near-constant conflict with many of Marvel's top writers and artists. This led to many, including Steve Gerber, Roy Thomas, Marv Wolfman, Gene Colan, John Byrne, Frank Miller, Doug Moench and other Marvel mainstays, leaving to work for DC or other companies. Shooter also failed to attract much new talent from the United Kingdom (as DC managed to do, resulting in considerable success and critical acclaim). Shooter's opposition to dropping the Comics Code cast Marvel as a conservative force in a rapidly changing comics industry. Stephen Ross Gerber (born 20 September 1947, St. ... Roy Thomas (born November 22, 1940, Missouri, United States) is a comic book writer and editor, and Stan Lees first successor as editor-in-chief of Marvel Comics. ... Cover to Crisis on Infinite Earths #1, which was written by Wolfman. ... Gene Colan (born September 1, 1926, the Bronx, New York City, New York) is an American comic book artist who sometimes worked under the name Adam Austin. ... John Lindley Byrne (born July 6, 1950) is a British-born naturalised American author and artist of comic books. ... Frank Miller (born January 27, 1957) is an American writer, artist and film director best known for his film noir-style comic book stories. ... Doug Moench (born February 23, 1948) is an American comic book writer. ... The Comics Code Authority (CCA) is an organization founded in 1954 to act as a de facto censor for American comic books. ...


Shooter declared that there were to be no gay heroes in the Marvel Universe. At that time the Comics Code Authority prohibited direct references to homosexuality, but some creators had hinted at in a veiled manner, notably John Byrne's depiction of Northstar in early issues of Alpha Flight. A story Shooter wrote for The Rampaging Hulk magazine (which was not submitted to the Comics Code Authority for approval) portrayed a violent, ugly side to gay life, depicting an attempted rape of Bruce Banner in the shower of a YMCA. This page relates to the superhero. ... This article is about the association. ...


Shooter himself scripted the 12-part limited series Secret Wars which set records at the time for comic book sales. Secret Wars was criticized by some as an over-hyped series that served no purpose other than to bring together all the company's major characters for no good reason, and also simply to promote a new line of Marvel action figures, but was praised by others as having well earned its place atop the charts. The limited series is a term referring to a comic book series with a set finite number of issues. ... Secret Wars (full title Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars) is the name of a twelve-issue Marvel Comics comic book limited series produced between 1984 and 1985, and a Mattel toy line that reflected the series. ...


Shooter was often blamed, sometimes demonized, by the comics fan press for corporate decisions his position required him to defend, most notably with respect to Marvel's long-running disputes with Jack Kirby over creator's rights and the return of the latter's original artwork from 1960s comics. It did not help his case that he seemed to go to lengths to make it appear that these decisions were entirely his own, and that upper management left him alone to run Marvel. Jack Kirby (August 28, 1917 – February 6, 1994) was one of the most influential, recognizable, and prolific artists in American comic books, and the co-creator of such enduring characters and popular culture icons as the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, the Hulk, Captain America, and hundreds of others stretching...


Efforts to tap into the young children's market with the Star Comics imprint, as well as a bid to appeal to more mature readers with the New Universe line, failed. With chief competitor DC creatively and commercially resurgent with Alan Moore's Swamp Thing and Watchmen, the Crisis on Infinite Earths limited series, and Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, Marvel for the first time in two decades seemed staid, unimaginative and behind the times in comparison. Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham #1 one of the first titles published by the imprint. ... Promotional Advertisement for The New Universe, Marvel Comics Group, circa 1986. ... Alan Moore (born November 18, 1953, in Northampton) is an English writer most famous for his influential work in comics, including the acclaimed graphic novels Watchmen, V for Vendetta and From Hell. ... The Swamp Thing is a fictional character created by Len Wein and Bernie Wrightson for DC Comics, and featured in a long-running horror-fantasy comic book series of the same name. ... For the 2008 film based on the comic book, see Watchmen (film). ... Crisis on Infinite Earths was a 12-issue comic book limited series (identified as a 12-part maxi-series) and crossover event, produced by DC Comics in 1985 in order to simplify their fifty-year-old continuity. ... The Dark Knight Returns (commonly abbreviated to DKR) is a superhero comic book story published by DC Comics between 1985 and 1986, starring Batman and was written and drawn by Frank Miller. ...


In the midst of sales stagnation, his relationships with company executives as well as with the freelance writers and artists on whom the company depended deteriorated. Shooter came off particularly bad in the press after his seemingly bitter and petulant testimony against the Comics Journal in a lawsuit trial brought by writer Michael Fleisher. With ownership of Marvel changing hands, the writing soon was on the wall that Shooter's tenure was at an end. To those within the industry, his subsequent termination did not come as a surprise, and initially, the reaction from the community was overwhelmingly positive. His successor was Tom DeFalco. The Comics Journal is an American magazine of news and criticism pertaining to comic books and strips, renowned for its in-depth interviews, often scathing reviews, and an editorial ethos that views comics as a fine art deserving of broader cultural respect. ... Michael Mike Fleisher is an American comic book writer. ... Tom DeFalco (born June 26, 1950) is an American comics writer and editor. ...


Valiant Comics

Cover image of Harbinger #1 from Valiant Comics
Cover image of Harbinger #1 from Valiant Comics

After leaving Marvel, Shooter fronted an effort to purchase the floundering publisher from its corporate ownership, losing out at the last minute to Ronald Perelman's slightly higher bid. He then founded a new company, Voyager Communications, which published comics under the Valiant Comics banner. Shooter brought many of Marvel's big name creators with him, including Bob Layton and Barry Windsor-Smith. Image File history File links Download high resolution version (778x1200, 279 KB) Summary Harbinger #1 by VALIANT Comics Licensing File history Legend: (cur) = this is the current file, (del) = delete this old version, (rev) = revert to this old version. ... Image File history File links Download high resolution version (778x1200, 279 KB) Summary Harbinger #1 by VALIANT Comics Licensing File history Legend: (cur) = this is the current file, (del) = delete this old version, (rev) = revert to this old version. ... Valiant Comics is the comic book publishing company founded by former Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Jim Shooter and renowned writer/artists Bob Layton and Barry Windsor-Smith in 1989. ... Ronald Owen Perelman (born January 1, 1943) is an American billionaire investor that made his fortune buying beleaguered corporations and re-selling them later for enormous profits. ... Valiant Comics is the comic book publishing company founded by former Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Jim Shooter and renowned writer/artists Bob Layton and Barry Windsor-Smith in 1989. ... Bob Layton is a USA comic book artist. ... Unity #0 for Valiant Comics cover by Barry Windsor-Smith // Biography Barry Windsor-Smith (formerly known as Barry Smith), born 1949 in Forest Gate, London, is a British cartoonist, comics-author, and painter best known for his work in American comic books. ...


Valiant stormed onto the market in the 1990s, selling more than 80 million books in its first five years. Its characters have seen print in numerous languages across the globe and have been featured in best-selling video games. With the new company enjoying great success in the direct market, Shooter was ousted in a corporate dispute that was sparked when his partners, who were predominately venture capitalists, expressed their desire to sell the company. There was also a dispute about the number of titles Valiant should publish. Shooter felt that he couldn't control the quality of more than ten titles at a time, since he insisted on personally editing each title, while his partners believed that more titles would bring in additional profit. Valiant was eventually sold to then-video game giant Acclaim Entertainment for $65 million. Upon this acquisition, Valiant's name was changed to Acclaim Comics. Direct market in the comic book industry is the dominant distribution and retail network in North America and elsewhere in the market for English-language comics. ... This article does not cite any references or sources. ...


At the time, all comic book publishers were suffering decreased sales as the comics market contracted, and Valiant/Acclaim Comics was no exception. Sales continued to drop despite the success of video game titles based on Valiant characters, such as Turok and Shadowman. Acclaim soon lost its sports licenses and suffered from under-performing sales of the new titles they introduced, such as BMX XXX, which served to drive profits down further. Turok #1 by Valiant Comics For the video game series see Turok video games; for the cosmologist with this surname, see Neil Turok. ... Shadow people (also known as shadow men or shadow beings) are a supernatural phenomenon reported by some individuals. ... BMX XXX is a controversial 2002 video game published by Acclaim Entertainment for the Xbox, GameCube, and PlayStation 2. ...


In 1999, Acclaim ceased all publication of its comics titles, and filed for bankruptcy in 2004. In 2005, after a series of rights auctions and legal battles, Valiant Entertainment were once again recognized as the owners of the Valiant characters, although it is not apparent what part, if any, Jim Shooter has in the current company.


Harbinger: The Beginning

Cover of Harbinger: The Beginning from Previews Magazine

In May 2007, Valiant Entertainment announced that they would be releasing a deluxe Hardcover collection of the complete Harbinger origin story (Harbinger #0-7) entitled Harbinger: The Beginning. The collection would digitally recolor and remaster the original books and include a new "Origin of Harada" story by Jim Shooter, the writer who had penned the most beloved Harbinger stories. Image File history File links No higher resolution available. ... Image File history File links No higher resolution available. ...


The press release from Valiantfans.com:


"This 192-page deluxe hardcover edition collects the full Harbinger origin story from Harbinger issues 0-7 digitally recolored and remastered, and also features an all-new "Origin of Harada" story written by comics legend JIM SHOOTER and illustrated by BOB HALL (Shadowman). This "Origin of Harada" story includes its own original cover and features the first appearance of a new character in the Valiant Universe! Valiant's goal is to make this deluxe hardcover edition something special for Valiant fans and a great introduction to the Harbinger saga for new Valiant fans. The book retails for $24.95 and will be available in comic book stores in August 2007. Diamond Previews orders from comic book retailers are due July 5th, 2007."


Other companies

Shooter, together with several of his loyalist coworkers, went on to found Defiant Comics. After some initial success with the first title, the new company failed to secure an audience in the increasingly crowded direct sales market and quickly folded thirteen months after its first title appeared, its resources drained in part by a prolonged court battle with Marvel Comics over Defiant's use of a title (Plasm) resembling one used on a failed title from Marvel's British imprint (Plasmer). Defiant Comics was a comicbook publishing imprint of Enlightment Entertainment Partners, LP. It was established in 1993. ... The Mighty World of Marvel #1: The very first Marvel UK title published in 1972. ...


Shooter went on to found Broadway Comics, which was an offshoot of Broadway Video, the production company that produces Saturday Night Live; but this line folded after its parent sold the properties to Golden Books. He then announced his intention to form yet another comic book publisher, Daring Comics, but nothing came of it. He returned to Acclaim for a brief stint in 1999 to write Unity 2000 (an attempt to combine and revitalize the older and newer Valiant universes) but Acclaim folded after the completion of only three of the planned six issues. In August 2000, he became part-owner and creative consultant for the sci-fi firm Phobos Entertainment; however, the website has not been updated for over two years (as of December 2006). In a 2004 interview by Tim Hartnett, of www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com, Jim discusses that his "main occupation is working for a company called TGS, Inc. developing entertainment content for an internet site." The website states that TGS, Inc. was acquired by Ascent Media Systems & Technology Services in October 2005. Broadway Comics was the third comic book company founded by Jim Shooter. ... Broadway Video is an American independent entertainment company started by Lorne Michaels. ... Saturday Night Live (SNL) is a weekly late night 90 minute American comedy-variety show based in New York City that has been broadcast live by NBC on Saturday nights since October 11, 1975. ... Sci-fi is an abbreviation for science fiction. ...


External links

  • An interview with Jim Shooter
  • Evaluation of Shooter's tenure by former Marvel editor James Owsley / Christopher Priest
  • Harbinger: The Beginning Hardcover Solicitation in Previews Magazine
  • Harbinger: The Beginning article at The Splash page
  • Harbinger: The Beginning article at Variety Online
  • Harbinger: The Beginning Press Release at Newsarama
  • Harbinger cover gallery at Valiantfans.com
  • The Ten Most Important Comic Books of the 1990s (Harbinger by Jim Shooter is ranked #1)
Preceded by
Archie Goodwin
Marvel Comics Editor-in-Chief
1978–1987
Succeeded by
Tom DeFalco
Preceded by
Gerry Conway
Avengers writer
1977–1978
Succeeded by
Tom DeFalco
Preceded by
Marv Wolfman
Daredevil writer
1977–1978
(with Gerry Conway in early 1977)
Succeeded by
Roger McKenzie
Preceded by
Bob Budiansky & Danny Fingeroth
Avengers writer
1981–1982
Succeeded by
Steven Grant
Preceded by
Frank Springer
Dazzler writer
1984
Succeeded by
Mike Carlin

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